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szerző Csizi | 2006, június 18 - 10:24 |

Mostanában egyre több kérdés merül fel a gyári ill. utólagosan beépített komponensekről, ezért úgy éreztem, megér egy összefoglalót.

Gyári rendszer ismertetését elolvashatjátok a kezelési kézikönyvben, akinek nincs meg, az a következő linken megtalálja:

Rádió ismertetése

Gyári magnó kiszedése

Legegyszerűbben 4 db vékony csavarhúzó segítségével lehet kivenni a gyári fejegységet, ha ez nem áll rendelkezésre, akkor 2 db hegesztőpálca meghajlítva tökéletesen ellátja a kiszedő funkcióját. Nyomjuk be a 4 lukon a célszerszámot, majd, ha kikattant, akkor húzzuk ki a fejegységet, a hátuljáról az oldalán nyomva szedjük le az ISO csatlakozót és az antennát.

Másik gyári fejegység beépítése:

CDMás Puntoból beszerzett fejegység beszerelése után érhet egy kis meglepetés. Ha ilyet vesztek, akkor mindenféleképpen kérjétek el hozzá a Code-ot, mert amúgy használhatatlan lesz a készülék.

A kód beírása sem egyszerű, mert ahányszor elrontod, annyival megnöveli a kód bekérésének idejét.

Ha alacsonyabb felszereltségű Puntoba kerül egy magasabb felszereltségű autónak a rádiója, az egy kis átalakítást igényel.

"Ez a Can bus-on keresztül tárolja a kódot a body computerben, ennek az előnye, hogy aksi levétel után nem kér újra kódot. Be tudod adni a kódot úgy, hogy a kazetta melletti 4 gomb közül a bal alsót és jobb fölsőt (vagy fordítva ) egyszerre nyomva tartod bekapcsoláskor, de ezt minden bekapcsoláskor el kell játszanod. Elvileg a végleges megoldás az, hogy egy szálat be kell húzni magnótól a body computerhez."

Gyári fejegység cseréje szabvány méretű DIN fejegységre:

KeretVan lehetőség a gyári fejegység szabvány méretű fejegység cseréjére. Ehhez egy átalakító, beépítő keret szükséges, amit Fiat kereskedésben, vagy autó hifi boltokban be lehet szerezni, ára 2-3000 ft.

A gyári fejegység kivétele után pattintsuk be az átalakítót, majd ebbe, tegyük be a DIN fejegységet. Beépítésnél adódhatnak hely problémák, ez fejegység függő, alap fejegységek általában gond nélkül beépíthetők.

Ha kicsit nagyobb darab a fej és egyéb kanócok is lógnak még róla, akkor egy kicsit komolyabb munkára lesz szükség.

Pioneer P99A fejegység mögötti részben vannak pici üregek, ahová a fejegység külső dobozkái elférnek. Mivel szűk a hely, és egyéb kábelek elhelyezésére és csatlakoztatására is szükség, lehet, ezért érdemesebb szétszedni a középkonzolt és a kesztyűtartó mögötti részt is. Nem érdemes minden áron betuszkolni és beerőltetni a fejegységet a helyére, mert esetleg ez kábelsérüléshez is vezethet.

A kesztyűtartót alul ki lehet pattintani belülről, és így ki is vehető. A mögötte lévő műanyag védőpanel ragasztva van pár helyen, ezeket éles szikével fel lehet vágni és így kihajtható az egész. Melegben érdemes csinálni, de egyébként is igen hajlékony az ott található műanyag, így nem kell tartani a töréstől, de azért körültekintően járjunk el. Ha ezt sikeresen elvégeztük, akkor fel lehet nyúlni a fejegység mögé, így a kábelek ide lehúzhatók. Érdemes ebbe az irányba elvezetni az RCA kábeleket is, ha a fejegységhez erősítő is van csatlakoztatva. Figyeljünk rá, hogy a táp kábel és az RCA kábelek nem menjenek ugyan azon az oldalon, mert ez zajok, összeszedésével járhat, pl. generátor zaj. Miután minden rendesen működik, csavarokkal vissza lehet rögzíteni a kesztyűtartó mögötti részt, majd vissza a kesztyűtartót.

Ha még így is kevés lenne a hely, (tapasztalat) akkor a műszeregység kivételével is rengeteg kábelt lehet elrejteni, nem nagy művelet kivenni.

Az RCA kábeleket jobb oldalon, vagy középen, a tápot bal oldalon célszerű hátra vinni. Első szett esetén nem kisérleteztem a hangváltók elhelyezésével elől, így a csomagtartóba kerültek és onnan lettek a hangszóró kábelek az első ajtóba víve.

Ha Hifi építésre adjátok a fejeteket, akkor legyen szem előtt a biztonság és a mefgelelő kábelek használata, ebben segítségetekre lehet a www.humma.hu szabálykönyve, itt pontosan ki lehet számolni, hogy milyen biztosítékot, táp kábelt kell használni az erősítő RMS teljesítmánye és a kábelhossz alapján, ezen kívül rengeteg útmutatást lehet olvasni.

Mielőtt bármihez is hozzákezdenétek, az első az akku lekötése legyen, mert a légzsák majdnem mindenre betárolja a hibát, amit csak computerre kötéssel orvosolható.

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blogger olasz69 | 2017, április 18 - 16:12 | (97461)

Megvizsgáltam a tápcsatiját a punto2-nek

A legjobb rajz amit találtam : http://imgur.com/clyBDmD?r

A /iso/ 1-2 üres

3:Zöld/Kék gyujtás-kapcsolt +12V
4:Piros fix +12v /egybe forrasztva a másik piros érrel,ami a 7. számú sarun van!!
5:Szürke (könyv szerint is ezen jön ki az antenna táp a fejegységből(+12V))
6:Sárga/Zöld negatív majd világítás kapcsolással akár helyzetjelzőről is : +12V
7:Piros/Fekete állandó +12V
8:Állandó test - negatív!!

Lehet venni fordítót,illetve átalakítható!

A punto kezelési könyvéből" FONTOS A gyújtáskulcs STOP állásában a készülék 20 perc múlva az áramfelvétel csökkentése érdekében automatikusan kikapcsolódik! " A subwooferrel szereltnél a vége ez : "a gyújtáskulcs kihúzása után 20 perccel a készülék automatikusan kikapcsolódik "
Kérdés,hogy a boardcomputer vagy a blaupunkt fejegység végzi ezt a feladatot.!!??
Igazából mindegy már,mert nincs kapcsolat sem a board,sem a blaupunkttal!
Ezek szerint nincs AAC sem,mert nem kapcsolt le nekem??

mini iso :
C1 Citromsárga
1 - can High ??
2- can low??
itt kommunikál a boardcomputerrel a kóddal kapcsolatban???
Az előző rajzról látom...

C2 Zöld-üres
C3 Kék-üres
(Ide jöhetne elvileg a bluetooth adapter az aux-ra a telefonos kommunikációhoz)

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blogger olasz69 | 2017, április 14 - 22:06 | (97459)

Bekötöttem az iso-val,majd még ránézek !

Találtam egy rajzot nézz rá : http://www.ertasvc.ru/userfile...

Úgy látom az állandó +12v nekünk az A7-en van az iso kábelen ez az A4-en a sárga ér.
A gyújtás-kapcsolt +12 v nekünk az A3-on az iso kábelen pedig az A7-en a piros ér!

ha neked nincs ez a gyújtás-kapcsolt +12v-od akkor : /A szivargyújtó mivel alatta van és kapcsolt +12V-ot kap az fel küldhető !/

Ezeket e rajz alapján írtam,ha hibás akkor az okfejtésem is!!

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blogger Sanyi 76 | 2017, április 6 - 06:44 | (97308)

Sziasztok
Odáig eljutottam, hogy próbalámpával megnéztem mindkét 12+ os vezeték állandó áramot szolgáltat a gyári kábelkötegben... A gyári fejegységgel így működött ezek szerint.
Viszont az újnak kellene egy,
ami csak gyújtáson van... Valaki?
Sanyi

blogger Sanyi 76 | 2017, április 5 - 06:35 | (97149)

Sziasztok!
Segítséget szeretnék kérni, Punto 2 gyári CD rádiót cserélném ki.
Vettem helyette egy szabványos ISO csatlakozós fejet.
A kérdés:
A punto 2 rádió csatlakozója hasonlít formailag az ISO-ra de a színek nem teljesen egyeznek. Kell-e bármilyen átalakító?
Meg ugye a gyári rádióba három darab csati ment bele, mi lesz a harmadikkal.
Jó lenne ha gyújtáselvételkor kikapcsolna stb...
Most bár már összeraktam, de a fejegységet mindig külön ki kell kapcsolnom.
Köszönöm
Sanyi.

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Szia!
Tóth Ferenc vagyok, nemrég vettem egy puntot. A Cancheck feliratot irja ki a rádiója. Nyomozok éppen hogy-mint lehetne valahogy elérni legalább hogy a kódot kérje. Annak beadása után remélhetöleg használható lesz.
Elöre is köszönöm a választ

Feri

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blogger kgabor89 | 2016, március 2 - 21:42 | (92733)

Üdv!

2001-es Fiat Punto II-m van. Gondolkodom a gyári kazettás rádió modernebbre cseréléséről. Azt tudom, hogy szükségem lesz kiszedő kulcsra és beépítő keretre.
A kérdésem az, hogy vajon az új rádiót, aminek ISO csatlakozója van, egyszerűen be tudom-e majd kötni, csak kihúzom a csatlakozót a régiből és bedugom az újba? Vagy speciális csatlakozója van a gyári rádiónak? Ha igen, lehet venni valamiféle átalakítót, ami ISO-vá alakítja a benne lévőt, vagy forrasztgatni kell?

Akinek van ilyen tapasztalata legyen szíves segítsen!

Köszönöm!

blogger jobbg75 | 2016, február 8 - 15:36 | (92653)

Sziasztok
Régebbi típusú autóm 2001-es és nincs benne Can-Bus.
De ilyen magnóm van azt be lehet szerelni. Valaki ért hozzá? Meg tudná csinálni? Budapest.
Üdv:Gábor!

blogger jobbg75 | 2016, február 4 - 14:31 | (92641)

Sziasztok
Van egy olyan problémám, hogy most szeretném vissza rakni az eredeti kazettás Blaupunkt magnót a Punto-a II és a ki jelzőn, NA és egy aláhúzott nagy i jelenik, meg. Mi lehet a probléma?
Üdv: Gábor

blogger tula007 | 2015, szeptember 21 - 09:00 | (91203)

Sziasztok!
Tudna valaki segíteni rádió kód generálásba. Szerelőnél volt a kocsi, lehúzták az aksit, sajnos én nem szóltam, hogy nincs kódom.

A rádió adatai:
Fiat Punto High CD
BP137623328244
BP-NR 7 641 376 316
Prod Nr Fiat: 735 313 020 0

Előre is köszönöm, aki tud segíteni!

blogger tula007 | 2015, május 18 - 11:00 | (89047)

Sziasztok!

Bizonyára nagyon evidens lesz a kérdés. Puntomba akkumulátort szeretnék cserélni. Cd-s magnó van benne. Kódot fog kérni ilyenkor?
Ha igen, akkor tudna valaki segíteni majd kód ügyben, mert sajnos az előző tulaj sem tudta már, vagy nem őrizte meg. milyen adatokra lenne szükség a kódhoz, hogy újra üzembe tudjam álltani a rádiót?

Nagyon köszönöm a válaszokat előre is!

blogger czakes | 2015, február 3 - 16:24 | (88417)

Sziasztok!Van egy problémám,nem rég vettem egy 2-es Puntot és nem szól benne a gyári rádió! A kijelzőn csak egy 7-est látok,nem reagál semmire! Próbáltam az itt látott kódokat,de nem jártam sikerrel!
A rádió oldalán megtaláltam a sorozat számot,ha ez segít valamit!
Típus: Punto LOW
BP937X0804316
ssz: 7649372316
HA tudtok rá megoldást segítsetek légyszíves!
Előre is köszönöm!

blogger stoppos | 2014, április 24 - 07:35 | (84574)

Sziasztok,

Lehet valamit kezdeni, hogy mukodjon a rádió?
BP1374 a kód megvan, csak addig nem jutok el :(

Köszi

blogger shulc | 2014, február 24 - 15:59 | (83887)

Sziasztok.

3 ajtós punto 2 van,és vissza raktuk a gyári magnót bele,most kéri a kódot.tud valaki segíteni mi lehet az?
előre is köszi

blogger Dzsande | 2014, február 24 - 15:41 | (83882)

Sziasztok!
Egy Punt2 Sportingom van.
Most kaptam hozzá egy Sainspeed fejegységet a gyári kazettás helyett.
Bele is raktam minden gyönyörűen szól amúgy csak két kisebb zaj van ami zavar.
Az egyik egy sípoló hang ami valószínűleg generátor zaj, a másik egy kisebb kattogó hang ami halk hallgatásnál jelentkezik.
A rendszer 7 hangszórós gyári.
Ha tudnátok vmi olcsó és egyszerű megoldást annak örülnék.
Előre is köszi.
Üdv:Balázs

blogger csabi88ika | 2014, január 24 - 16:04 | (83537)

Sziasztok, nemrég vettem a puntomat és nem volt benne rádió ezért vettem bele 1 cd-s lejátszót. Az lenne a problémám hogy a rádió csatornákat nagyon gyengén fogja be, recseg meg minden, városon belül meg egyáltalán nem fog be semmit. Ha valaki tudna segíteni hogy mit is csináljak vele, esetleg antenna csere vagy lehet hogy a bekötés rossz nem tudom, azt nagyon megköszönném.

blogger Mikusz | 2014, január 12 - 12:39 | (83446)

Igazad van, de nekem csak arra kell hogy munkába menet rádiót hallgassak.
Jelenleg egy gagyi kazettás fejegység van benne ami nem hajtja meg a hátsó hangszórókat.
A CD fejegység azért kell mert meghajtja a hátsó hangszórókat is, illetve tudja a sebességfüggő hangerőt. Ennyi. Se CD se MP3 nem lesz. Hosszú távon tervezem még egy gyári mélyláda beszerzését.
A CD adatai:
Bp-Nr:7 645 348 316
Fiat-Nr:735 388 560 0
S/N:815BP534868308184

Ha valaki tud szerezni hozzá egy kódot azt nagyon megköszönném.
Jelenleg az eladónál van, csak akkor veszem meg ha lesz működő kód és kipróbálom vele.

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blogger BluElefantino | 2014, január 12 - 09:06 | (83444)

Én is így voltam vele hogy a gyári jobb de a gyári fejegység még mp3-at sem tud beolvasni arról nem is beszélve hogy egyszer azért is szét kellett szedni mert folyamatosan kiírta hogy error mert a cd olvaó fejet kellett tisztítani. Utána belekerült egy nem gyári fejegység és a hangzás minium 30%-al szebb lett  és utána jöttek az új hangszórók, mélyláda majd erősítő! :D

 

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blogger Mikusz | 2014, január 11 - 18:04 | (83443)

Igazad van, de én alapból jobban szeretem a gyári dolgokat még ha kevesebbet is tudnak, esztétikailag jobban illenek a kocsiba.
Ráadásul 8e Ft -ért adnák a CD -t, nekem ennyit még megér. A 15e Ft -os hirdetéseket már tényleg nem éri meg megvenni, de ez még szerintem jó árban van.
A "B" terv természetesen egy beépítőkeretes USB -s rádiós fejegység, ha a gyári nem jönne össze.

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blogger BluElefantino | 2014, január 11 - 17:26 | (83442)

Szia!

Szerintem inkább ne gyári fejegységet tegyél bele hanem egy sima normál alap Cd-s Usb-s magnót, 20e ft-ért már bőven lehet kapni jó márkákból! Arról nem is beszélve hogy jobban is szólnak mint a gyáriak, csak kell hozzá venni beépítő keretet ami kb.2500ft.

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blogger Mikusz | 2014, január 11 - 17:20 | (83441)

Sziasztok!
Ősszel vettem a Puntomat és eddig nagyon elégedett vagyok vele, azt kaptam amit ennyi pénzért vártam.
Gyárilag magnó van benne, most tudnék venni bele egy gyári CD fejegységet de az eladó nem tudja hozzá a kódot, már ő is így vette a kocsiját.
Pótolható valahogyan a kód?

blogger pumpo36 | 2012, december 13 - 18:41 | (76437)

Most vettem egy használt Puntó II-őt , persze Code kártyát nem kaptam hozzá ( kulcsot is csak 2 drb. kéket ) Azt szeretném megkérdezni, hogy ha áramtalanítom a kocsit ( rövid utakon járok és kocsiról levéve szoktam utántölteni az aksit )nem e teszem használhatatlanná a VDO tipusú rádiót. Azt olvastam egy másik Fiat fórumban, hogy a " megfelelő menüben kiolvashatom, hogy ,hogy mi a helyzet. Ha azt írja ki, hogy SAFE akkor kódot fog kérni, ha azt, hogy Code akkor nem kér ! Na de melyik ez a menű,( a rádióban ) mert a leírásban sehol nem találom ! Elöre is köszönöm a segítséget !
Minden márkatársnak kellemes ünnepet kívánok !

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blogger brekydown | 2012, november 29 - 20:02 | (76045)

Sziasztok ,a segítségeteket kérném !
Most vettem egy 2es puntot és a rádión a kijelző nemtudom miért de nem jeleníti meg a rádió állomásokat,és hiányosan jelzik ki a dolgokat, a következő az lenne,vettem egy FM át alakítót, és azt szeretném kérdezni hogy a rádiót hogyan tudom át állítani,kézi keresésre? mert a programozott állomásokat váltja...

ide várnám a segítséget brekydown@citromail.hu Köszi !!

blogger palamer | 2012, október 27 - 21:19 | (74713)

Sziasztok!
Szeretnék segítséget kérni arra, hogy hol és mennyiért tudnám kicseréltetni az elromlott potméteremet a rádión. Történt ugyanis, hogy letört a kapcsoló gombom, amit gondoltam (hülye fejjel), hogy visszaragasztok. Aztán megfolyt a ragasztó, és a gomb használhatatlanná vált. Ez nagyon nem zavart, mert a gyújtáskapcsolóval lehetett áramot adni a gépnek, de most levették az aksimat, és miután visszakerült a saru a rádió áram nélkül maradt. Szóval cserélni kell a potit, ez tuti. Ha valakinek van erre ötlete, hálás lennék érte.
Esetleg az is jól jönne, ha valaki azt tudná, hogy hol lehet, vagy hogy lehet a poti kapcsolón kívül másként is bekapcsolni a rádiót
Köszi előre is a segítséget!

blogger targer | 2012, szeptember 9 - 16:00 | (73740)

Sziasztok!

Nem rég vettem egy Punto II-t amiben gyári, CD-s, mélynyomós Blaupunkt van.
Meg tudja valaki mondani, hogy hogyan lehetne rá AUX in bemenetet kreálni?
Olvastam egy külföldi fórumon, hogy hátul, a CD-tár bemeneti helyére (kék csati) lehet egy jack-es kábelt venni. Működik ez a variáció? Automatikusan lesz a menüben egy aux-in, az src gomb listáján? (mert most nincsen) Vagy vegyek egy olyan kábelt ami a kékből 2 RCA-t csinál és van hozzá valami vezérlőszál és azt a 2 RCA-t alakítsam jack-ké?

Köszi a választ!